Fedora News Updates #13
by Colin Charles
For the week of: Friday, June 11 2004
Available at: http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/issue13.shtml
Welcome to issue number thirteen of the Fedora News Updates. Yes,
we're on the three week schedule now (and moved to Friday, as staying
up late till Saturday morning works out a lot better for me), so this
is probably getting more jam packed with news. Here's a call to
contributors - if you read this regularly and use it as a resource (and
from stats, I know you read this!), if you think somethings newsworthy,
consider finding the appropriate post in the archives, and send me the
URL - always reachable at email@example.com.
fedora-list can give me up to 70 posts an hour, and that means I go
thru a ridiculous sum of e-mail at any given time. Thanks.
'Wombat' has been released
The first Fedora Core 2 based tree of AURORA Sparc Linux
is now available, Spot
It's not "installable" as in there are no ISO images, but its useful
for a baseline upgrade.
the best of both Cores
So you want to dual-boot
Fedora Core 1 and Fedora Core 2
, so that they run on the same disk?
Alexander mentions that performing an install
rather than an upgrade
will solve this for you, and Jim Cornette
has a step-by-step
, to get this done.
FedoraTracker and the perfect yum.conf
Brad Smith has updated
the Fedora Tracker: http://www.fedoratracker.org/
This brings the many apt/yum repositories together, and has an
excellent search tool. If you know of a repository out there that isn't
listed, the administrators are welcome to e-mail Brad. Its ability to
generate apt/yum config files is useful for newbies, and Rory Gleeson
started a thread on the perfect
However, when mixing repositories and using whatever is available out
there, be warned! Alexander Dalloz points out that you should fine-tune
your repository list, while Michael Schwendt tells us a bit about package
(and how install refusals occur). An example of this is
the recent Firefox/Mozilla
, which is a result of repository mixing.
Fedora Legacy updates
LiveCD with Fedora Core 2
Dirk Westfal has released version 1.3 of the Basilisk workstation Live
CD, and its now available for testing
. The website (http://www.linux4all.de/livecd/basilisk/1.3
has the announcement
as well as how its download-able and so on. This is based on Fedora
Core 2, and includes a 2.6 kernel (with a 2.4 fallback), and testing is
required (as when Dirk tested, it worked on 15/20 systems). Happy
RULE Project is back again
Marco Fioretti has announced
that the RULE Project has revamped its website, and while the installer
isn't ready for FC2 yet, the goals of the project are hopefully a lot clearer. The RULE Project can be reached at http://www.rule-project.org/
On a similar issue, the "minimal install" question
with regards to Fedora always pops up. Jef Spaleta puts it rather
nicely, mentioning that its an itch
for someone to scratch
, and points out what needs to be done, while
David Hollis has some interesting
gained through experience.
Performance tuning Fedora II
It's all about performance these days, and there have been several
discussions with regards to this, in addition to the last time we
covered it. Somehow, I think this topic is going to be touched on
rather regularly in the future as well.
Vladimir wanted to know why OProfile was not working in terms of profiling
. Will Cohen mentions that its because the debug
information (symbols) get stripped
, as this reduces the size of the RPMS. However, getting the
debuginfo packages, help.
A recent news article took a stab at gnome-terminal, stating its
performance was lacking; ironically, work was being done on profiling
the entire system, and Will Cohen goes thru relevant data to measure
of desktop utilities (in this case, xterm). Using
/usr/bin/time rather than the shell built-in time, allows
information about page faults
to show itself. A little script, cattest
that might be useful for others to play around with. Further
information, to be more gnome-terminal
, as well as a little modification
to the test methodology.
application start-up indicators
was a thread started by Will on
measuring the startup time for various desktop applications. Havoc
links to some code for profiling
the application directly
, while Mark points
to a post on the GNOME lists. As always, Will then posts a summary
of his findings.
Thinking of blaming
that cause desktop RAM usage to increase (memory
profiling)? The use
is mentioned, and Soeren explains his
While not directly performance related, giving users a good
is very important, so Havoc Pennington
managed to hash out some of his thoughts. And the significance placed
on improving end-user experience is getting to a high standard (where
the Linux desktop is very usable) - Seth Nickell writes about improving
Round-up of some usual/common FC2 issues
- Downloading the DVD ISO and finding that you've exceeded the
maximum file size? (that being an error message). This is a known
issue, please refer to: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg06740.html.
- Fedora Core 2 not playing well
with Windows XP partitions? This made press release, after press
release, and Jack Aboutboul posted a rather useful guide at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html,
written by an anonymous author. Thiers Botelho has his "newbie
guide" available. And for all the newbies repeatedly posting the
same question, melgil88 has come up with a nice quick post: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg01986.html.
- Synaptics touchpad won't tap with FC2? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg05164.html
has an outline of a very useful solution.
- ALSA is known to start with sound muted - you need to increase
the sound level with alsamixer, and if it doesn't save, Chris Kloiber
points to using alsactl
store. Alternatively (?), go to Fedora -> Preferences ->
Sound and enable
sound server startup.
- Looking for Sessions, so that you can add start-up applications
in GNOME? The menu entry is missing, so just run gnome-session-properties
to make use of the feature.
- When you upgrade from Fedora Core 1 to Fedora Core 2, you'll be
prompted with an Xkb error. This is an easy fix - go to your favourite
text editor, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config, and change the line that reads Option "Xkbrules" "xfree86" to
become Option "Xkbrules" "xorg".
- Several users wrote in to make a mention of the nvidia drivers
and FC2's 2.6 kernel (the 4Kstacks release!). Agustin Barto pointed to
two threads at the nvidia forums: Nvidia
5336 driver with Fedora Core 2 and Fedora
Core 2 and nVidia drivers? Keep in mind that FC2 works with the
standard "nv" drivers, it just lacks 3D support - David Curtis points
to a link that might offer some light in setting
it up. Apparently there's an RPM of an FC2 kernel that might fix
all this for you, as pointed out at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg00858.html.
- ASUS P4P800 not booting? There's a new ISO available, in which
this bug is fixed: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg07574.html.
This is fixed in the new kernel-2.6.6-1.427.
Some Fedora documentation
Feel like running a 2.4 line of kernels on Fedora Core 2? Erik
shows you how to do it: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg01118.html
These are his experiences, and no one else has responded to the thread.
Chua Wen Kiat has a Fedora Core 2 Guide for Newbies located at http://www.kitech.com.my/fedoraguide/
It's very centered around package listings (?), and having a
well-configured yum configuration will prove that this isn't too useful.
The Fedora Core 3 outlook
Now's the time to think about Fedora Core 3... Warren Togami suggests
that now is a good time to go
and upgrade relevant packages - provided you've tested
them, its probably a good time to request if there's a newer upstream
version. Keep in mind that if an upstream developer is interested in
packaging and dealing with bug reports, newer package inclusions will
be much easier - so participation
Ankit Malik started a Fedora
Core 3 Wishlist
thread, which grew relatively large. Jason Dravet
had a few more requests
Bryan Smith came up with a summary discussing "Core" changes, at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-June/msg00295.html
Dave Jones mentions that there should not
be any major changes
in the FC3 kernel, and things will be kept as
close to mainline as possible. Currently, there are only about fourty
odd patches, if not lower. It's also become clear that Red Hat
Enterprise Linux 4 will be based on Fedora Core 3 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg08081.html
Scot Harris has posted mailing list (fedora-list) statistics for the
months of March
, and May
. Keep them coming!
Gareth Russell has also announced that FedoraForum.org
has over 3,500
anaconda moved to anonymous CVS
Jeremy Katz has moved anaconda to public CVS; if you do a current
checkout, you'll see what's to be in FC3's anaconda. More at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00906.html
Jack Aboutboul has posted how to solve RealPlayer issues, which will
solve many users' multimedia woes: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg04929.html
The Macromedia Flash plugin has been updated to version 7, and the
usual repository has it: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-May/msg07798.html
Thinking of using that iPod with a good GUI tool? Casper Pedersen has
written an article about using GtkPod
. There is also
an RPM package available.
Having issues configuring cyrus-imapd? Florin Andrei found a solution
(and made a submission for a news bit! Thanks) and its available at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg02049.html
Reading the rest of the thread is handy as well, and Florin welcomes
Terminal services prototype
Caolan and Mark have been working on a VNC terminal services prototype,
and if it meets your needs, do give it a spin. More information at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-June/msg00007.html
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